Balance Council(#34)

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ID	Category	Title	Creator	Status	Result
34	balance	Give the HLAC primary a much faster rate of fire, about the same damage per second, much less push force and some minor adjustments; specifically, apply https://gitlab.com/xonotic/xonotic-data.pk3dir/-/commit/2530da4cd964ea3b68edcc642f4e166b516336a6	bones_was_here	PASSED	3:0(6 abstained, 20 didn't vote)

2025-09-27T07:54:12Z - 2025-10-27T07:54:12Z

User	Decision	Comment
AsciiWolf	NONE
Freddy	ABSTAIN	I have nearly no experience wiht the HLAC and currently don't have enough time for in-depth testing.
Antibody	NONE
Arch	NONE
bones_was_here	YES	Weapon fire rates that play well are either slow enough that each high-damage shot can be aimed individually, or fast enough to work as a tracking aim weapon. The old HLAC fire rate was somewhere in between making it awkward for humans to use, especially against players with the kind of movement skills common in Xonotic.
carnag3	YES	HLAC used to be a neglected weapon in Australian servers till a few years ago as it didn't serve its specific purpose as a medium to long range weapon in team games and it didn't compliment MG in areas that it lacked. It went through an evolution during the last few years thanks to bones tinkering and fine tuning HLAC through trial and error and community feedback of veterans of various skill level and over 1000 hours of testing ingame that it became a staple weapon in many maps and has replaced hagar by popular request in almost every map. IMO these changes made HLAC shine as a weapon on its own right and made it distinctive from hagar and increased its usage as evident in our weekly games.
divVerent	ABSTAIN	Before voting for or against, please check if its bandwidth usage is within acceptable range - like try a 16p match with HLAC weapon arena at default client settings to see if any serious lag issues occur.
Dodger	NONE
Dr. Jaska	ABSTAIN	I've almost never played with this weapon
ferreum	NONE
Halogene	NONE
hotdog_the	NONE
illwieckz	NONE
k9er	YES	These changes have been on bones' server for testing for ages now. HLAC usage rate has notably increased, big improvement from the weapon being largely ignored previously. Primary DPS is in a good range, high enough to be useful but lower than Hagar's primary, which is more difficult to use so should indeed have higher DPS. Personally I think the fire rate is slightly too high now, and crouchmod should be 0.5 not 0.25 given the hugely reduced spread_max, but otherwise these changes are overall still a decent improvement.
LegendGuard	NONE
Morosophos	NONE
MrBougo	NONE
nitroxis	NONE
pcl0l	NONE
rly_xa	NONE
J.R.	NONE
Silent	NONE
SPLAT	ABSTAIN
Spike29	ABSTAIN	I've almost never played with this weapon
terencehill	ABSTAIN
tommy	NONE
turkey_shoot	NONE
Xord86_64	NONE
z411	NONE